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Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« on: October 20, 2016, 10:00:27 pm »

Update By: mrrichard999

Here is an announcement for the English translation of Sukeban Deka III! Now all English understanding audiences can enjoy this Famicom title.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 10:03:09 pm »
It's me again (playtesting) and Congrats.
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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 11:38:52 pm »
Wow, I didn't knew that someone made a translation based off my walkthrough. Good job. Can't wait to play it.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 11:43:37 pm »
Your FAQ was a big help in doing this project. The game is very unforgivable though... Good luck!  :)

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 12:21:34 am »
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Sukeban Deka 3 (J) [b1].nes - NOINTRO
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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 12:23:53 am »
According to NOINTRO at the time, it was a good dump. Guess it changed.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 12:49:49 am »
I was the guy who submitted the fix request for [b1] to be included in the ROM name.

I did so based on the ROMs for this game in GoodNES V3.23b.

I guess the 2 conflict, but I used accurate methods to check the crc32 and md5 sha1 etc

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 02:15:41 am »
I was the guy who submitted the fix request for [b1] to be included in the ROM name.

I did so based on the ROMs for this game in GoodNES V3.23b.

I guess the 2 conflict, but I used accurate methods to check the crc32 and md5 sha1 etc

I took a look... it looks like the correct ROM (or so says bootgod) was listed as [b1] in GoodNES 3.14, but now shows as [!] in GoodNES 3.23b.

I've submitted a correction (though I removed the checksum data... we shouldn't be including checksums for any NES games anyways).

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 02:34:30 am »
Well that's cool, but without a checksum listed, how is the patch validated?

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 07:33:46 am »
According to NOINTRO at the time, it was a good dump. Guess it changed.
Dude, just run the original ROM that you used in creating the patch with into ROM Hasher then copy/paste the hashes on the hack's page. That page was edited several times just for the ROM Info already.  >:(

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 07:45:27 am »
@MrRichard999: Hey, you forget Sukeban Deka III Japanese logo in credits screen. (0.95)

And your favorite HashTab has been removed on RHDN :P.
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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2016, 08:41:52 am »
Dude, just run the original ROM that you used in creating the patch with into ROM Hasher then copy/paste the hashes on the hack's page. That page was edited several times just for the ROM Info already.  >:(

Hey buddy, my info was right from the beginning.  I used the NO-INTRO tool on their website to convert my GoodNES files. ::)

Give me Hasttab or give me death! :P
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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2016, 01:19:56 pm »
Well that's cool, but without a checksum listed, how is the patch validated?

Due to the nature of NES file headers and the fact that many of the bits (specifically the mirroring flag, but also the iNES 2.0 info and others) could be set to many different permutations and still be considered "correct", an NES ROM could have many different checksums but still be exactly the same as far as the actual ROM data itself. You can include checksum data on the ROM info section here at RHDN, but that implies that only that *specific* checksum will work, which can be very misleading for users. (This is why using BPS for NES ROMs is incredibly irritating, but I digress!)

The only way to really confirm the ROM by its checksum is to remove the header and then check. This is what GoodNES and No-Intro do, but it's kind of unrealistic to expect the end-user to do this. :) As long as GoodNES or No-Intro validate the ROM as good, it's sufficient.

As for this game, I removed the checksum info and added the correct GoodNES name, but that submission got rejected, while the change that I submitted accidentally while editing got approved. Go figure! So I'm washing my hands of it.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2016, 02:27:45 pm »
Was it really irritating to use BPS?  When i used BPS, it went off without a hitch, so I presumed it was exactly what I needed.


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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2016, 02:41:27 pm »
Was it really irritating to use BPS?  When i used BPS, it went off without a hitch, so I presumed it was exactly what I needed.

Sure, but the times when it doesn't work is the problem. The version of beat that I use might be outdated, but when it fails the hash check, it fails without even giving a detailed reason. Not user friendly! :)

Plus, if you're positive that you already have a good ROM, trying to figure out why the patch wants a different ROM, and how to fix it, can be very frustrating, especially if all you have to go by is a SHA-256 or whatever.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2016, 06:37:44 pm »
If one's NES patching is failing with BPS, it's usually header differences. I don't know what header this patch supports. However, the correct one according to Bootgod of the NesCartDB is as follows:

4E 45 53 1A 08 00 21 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2016, 08:40:05 pm »
Quote from: mrrichard999 link=topic=22905.msg321044#msg321044 date=47705371

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2016, 08:43:16 pm »
Then say hello to death for me  :laugh:

Its way more convenient though. :thumbsup:

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2016, 01:20:20 pm »
I never though this game would ever get an translation because is not to popular, anyway good work.

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Re: Translations: Sukeban Deka III now in English!
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2016, 01:23:08 pm »
Thanks!  :thumbsup: